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Starting a Cold Bike

This is a simple procedure that everyone does, but I’m going to shed some light on the method I prefer in starting a Victory the way I do.

This applies to all Victory’s. Throughout the course of a year while I was on the road traveling I would tune between 300-450 Victory’s a year, add in the shop work and that would add another 100 to the total. So it’s a fairly simple procedure, you hit the button and wait for it to come to life. With starting so many different bikes they do have their own characteristics but they all respond well to this procedure. Before hitting the button I roll the throttle slightly (about an 1/8 rotation) than I hit the button, once to life I like to hold the rpm’s between 1500-1800 Rpm’s for approx 30-40 seconds if the bike is really cold (50 degrees and below) and 15-30 seconds if above those temps.

Here’s some benefits of starting a bike the way I like too. When a bike is cold, so is everything else. Oil is super thick and the oil pump is loaded heavy trying to push the oil through small clearances to lubricate your motor internals. When the motor first fires up, it is straining just to maintain an idle, and the computer is throwing a lot of fuel (choke Mode) to the injectors to aide in the ease of running cold. This also wants to make things lumber and run slightly slower in engine speed. By using an 1/8 throttle rotation we help the engine overcome these conditions and supply oil to critical parts quicker. We all know that a warm motor starts easier than a cold one as there is less drag and frictional losses to keep it running with less effort. Yes, the bikes are fuel injected, and some people assume there might be damage or that its just not correct to use throttle while starting a fuel injected bike. B.S. – that’s not the case, not in these years but maybe the future of fuel injection may lead to different results as fly by wire becomes more common and wide band monitoring enters the motorcycle world.

Give it a shot, your motor just might thank you.

Lloyd Greer

LLOYD’Z Motor Workz

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Pre-Mapped Power Commander

We’ve been getting hit with this a lot lately – Customers ordering Power Commanders from sources such as FuelMoto and others claiming they will install a map for their application before sending out the unit.

Ironically, one person had said they ordered a PCV from them and it wasn’t running right – I asked what their combination was, he listed his parts. I said, “how did they get a map for that, I just released 2 of those items and I know FuelMoto didn’t order them from me, so I’m sure they didn’t install them on a bike and build a map before I did..”

So bottom line is YES they will install a map, it just may not be correct to your needs.

Lloyd Greer

LLOYD’Z Motor Workz

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Oil

This should have been the first thing I ever posted as it’s the MOST played out question on the web.

I get asked this ALL the time. Which oil do I recommend in a Victory? My answer is Victory 20w40 oil! I don’t care about your oil analysts, I don’t care to hear your primary sounds quieter, I don’t care to hear the other oil you use is cheaper, I don’t care to hear any other comment you have about another oil. Cause and effect, you may have caused one thing to “get better” but you just affected another to get worse. I see HUNDREDS of torn apart motors every year, I can with a great deal of accuracy tell which oil was in that motor. It’s not a super power I possess; certain oils leave characteristic stains, marking, smell and wear in different areas of the motor. I’m by all means not experienced in all oils in these bikes but there are the top 4 used that I’m experienced with.

Now I will also say, I’m not suggestion Victory oil is by far the best oil in the world for these bikes. I am saying, with the ones that are typically used Victory oil lends itself to be the superior oil for wear and parts protection that provides a manageable and stable temperatures.

One issue raised is this, if there is better oil, let’s say Royal Purple. It’s oil I’ve wanted to try for years. It would take me an unknown amount of years gathering information to sit down and recommend another brand. Conclusions can’t be made on 1 engine, that’s bit me in the ass before.

So what’s my ending statement?

If you have the ability to buy Victory oil, IMO there’s no reason to open the top on another brand

Lloyd Greer

LLOYD’Z Motor Workz

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MLS Gasket Assembly

MLS stands for MULTI LAYER STEEL and is the only gasket type used for Victory head and base gaskets.

I see a lot of cylinders and heads that get shipped here for work, some new some old some for work or rework.

I notice, for some reason, that Techs are using spray gasket on the gaskets before assembly. The preferred choice of these guys seems to be the cooper spray gasket. Guys COME ON!!!??? You NEVER use anything on an MLS gasket! Period!

It does not hold any better but it does work its way out of the squished surface and into your oil and motor. That shit is like little abrasive balls circulating through your motor and collecting in passages. If you’re using that shit. STOP! If you see it festering up around your gaskets go smack your tech in the mouth and tell him “thanks pal, you just shortened the life of my motor.”

Lloyd Greer

LLOYD’Z Motor Workz